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Mikael Owen
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Posted - 2016.04.30 17:03:13 -
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Hello there!
So I am a miner, trying to make ISK, minding my own business in 0.7 security. A good day to play, I've been mining for like 6-7 hours already. Making that ISK. Then I see two destroyers coming in and blowing up my Hulk along with my pod. What a great design. What a great game to play.
Let's assume these two Catalysts cost 10mil to make ready to fly. Let's assume I made my Hulk by spending 250mil. Insured it for 20m too. 10m kills 250mil before Concord can react to, in a 0.7 security.
What a reasonable ratio. What magical numbers I see. The math here is incredibly satisfying.
So 6-7 hours I spent mining are down the drain. Incredible design! So correct! So on point! I am loving this game so freaking much!
Thank you CCP! Can't wait to buy another Hulk and go through this again! So exciting! |

Mikael Owen
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Posted - 2016.04.30 17:11:48 -
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Yeah I think I will be doing other things. Earning like 11-14m per hour doesn't really help with this mess. So discouraging and annoying. |

Mikael Owen
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Posted - 2016.04.30 17:18:32 -
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Well I activated my three shield mods (Adaptive Invul was on all the time). I guess I should just make a tank out of my Hulk than a miner. Like use both armor and shield tank and tanking rigs and even electronic warfare mods and also logistics drones.
Yeah! Great idea! I will just do that!
Thank you Aluana you really opened my eyes! Thanks a lot! |

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Posted - 2016.04.30 17:41:48 -
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DaReaper wrote:as a miner for 12 years... dude...
1) fit a better tank or use a mack, it has a better tank.
2) mine with your friends
3) join another corp
4) stop whining and don't afk mine, seriously you should of been able to tank them both or bail when you saw them.
Do I look like I am whining? And how did you get the feeling that I was AFK?  Lessons learned man, don't worry! |

Mikael Owen
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Posted - 2016.04.30 17:43:49 -
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Hawke Frost wrote: Why should we care about someone who clearly never put in any active effort to read forums, local or anything where it states "if you use a Hulk in high sec and play afk expect to explode". Or more directly, why should we care about someone who plays the game in afk mode, you don't add anything to the sandbox (other than being a target).
The recurring theme here is "you don't put in any effort". The game then rewards you with ****** boring game play, low income and involuntary explosions. Don't like the consequences of you choices, choose differently.
WoW! You didn't even read this thread did you? And you complaing about me not reading the forums. I wasn't AFK or anything dude. Chiiiiillll.  |

Mikael Owen
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Posted - 2016.04.30 17:54:58 -
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Hawke, dude are you by any chance, uuuhhhmmm a douche? :D
Dude, listen. First of all Hulk is heavy. You don't just warp out. Secondly it all happened fast. I activated my two other shield mods and hoped that the Concord will come. In the meanwhile I jump to hauler and tried to warp her out and she made it out. Get it?
And also please enlighten me on this subject : How would EvE work without miners, doing that boring **** you talk about? So it's boring as ****, not risky and the game is punishing me with ****** rewards. What do you suggest all miners do? I am curious bro. |

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Posted - 2016.04.30 17:59:42 -
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@Jonah Gravenstein : You are right. I will consider your input. Thank you! |

Mikael Owen
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Posted - 2016.04.30 18:07:32 -
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Hawke Frost wrote:Mikael Owen wrote:Hawke, dude are you by any chance, uuuhhhmmm a douche? :D
Dude, listen. First of all Hulk is heavy. You don't just warp out. Secondly it all happened fast. I activated my two other shield mods and hoped that the Concord will come. In the meanwhile I jump to hauler and tried to warp her out and she made it out. Get it?
And also please enlighten me on this subject : How would EvE work without miners, doing that boring **** you talk about? So it's boring as ****, not risky and the game is punishing me with ****** rewards. What do you suggest all miners do? I am curious bro. Intelligent miners who put in brain effort will choose to do stuff that doesn't end up in them exploding. They do so by reading the forum, checking guides and whatnot. They quickly learn to not use a hulk, to fit shield extenders, to always orbit or be aligned, to Dscan and to fit their 700 mil hauling itty 5 with MWD and a cloak. Mining works fine for ppl with a working brain who aren't lazy, just like other parts of the game. Mining isn't the problem, gankers aren't the problem. YOU are the problem.
I think you are the problem here Hawke. 
I am all ears and some people pointed out some facts. I wasn't playing the game for a couple of years so I am making some mistakes. With a better mouth you could a lot more good bro. |

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Posted - 2016.04.30 18:18:50 -
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Hawke Frost wrote:Mikael Owen wrote:I am all ears and some people pointed out some facts. I wasn't playing the game for a couple of years so I am making some mistakes. With a better mouth you could a lot more good bro. You're not "all ears", you made a whiny statement about how the design sucks, pointing fingers left and right. If you think that wasn't a whine post them uhm, yeah. Why should any one of us put in active into helping someone who hasn't put in the effort himself while sperging about the obvious outcome of that lack of effort. If you want help ask questions in a reasonable manner, if you sperg expect to get called on that.
"I am all ears" and I accept, the mistake was on my part. Got it?
Thanks for your input bro, non the less. |

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Posted - 2016.04.30 18:20:27 -
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Starrakatt wrote:Buy and use a Skiff.
Yeild is lesser, true, but it got a great tank and in the long run you will come up ahead ISK wise.
Or run missions or do exploration for better income.
Mining in 0.0 is way more profitable, and usually safer. Mail me in game if you want, I could refer you to someone who joined a Nulsec alliance and did just that with success.
Thank you for the offer! |

Mikael Owen
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Posted - 2016.05.01 07:17:11 -
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Thank you all for you inputs.
When I re-activated my account I had a Mackinaw and I thought why I am not using a Hulk instead. The old me from a couple years back probably knew Hulks were getting ganked easily and they were for mining operations. I am rusty and somewhat "bound" to make mistakes I guess.
At first, when I just lost a day's worth of course I was discourage, but that we go over it with you all I know that was purely an error on my part and I am no longer feeling bad about. I learned (relearned) a lot.
Thank you all! Fly safe! |
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